3/14/16 #Tremblant Conditions

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3/14/16 #Tremblant Conditions

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T360 Apres Ski, Technical Review, Specific to Twitter #Tremblant
Mountain User Question. UNDER CONSTRUCTION Below As “Reply”
Post @ 2:00 A.M.


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T360 Mid-Eve. Apres Ski Edit/Intro. @ 10:00 P.M.

Another Dry Morning, A Dry Noon Hour, And Dry Up To About 2:30 P.M. ...



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After 2:30, things “Closed In”, so-to-speak...



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BUT... “Closed In” was NOT Rain at the Summit, or either Summit To Base North,
or Summit To TGV Base, South(we did not go below TGV due to Group Training
commitments on North).


But... “closed In” WAS a Sleet/Frozen Snow Pellet, and in the space of a couple of
hours....


Those Frozen Snow/Sleet Pellets were accumulating to a beneficial depth:



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So, While there was a rain at South Base Level(according to friends parked at the
Resort Base)...

Once Again The Mountain Makes Its Own Weather...

The Combination... Wind Direction, Cooler Elevation Temps, Cooler Winds Aloft...

Up ’Til Last Run... Was Building an Icy, Sleety, But Totally Solid, Crystalline,
Frozen Snow Pellet... that was NOT Rain...

What Will The Morning Show ???

Some Theoretical Possibilities Could Be
a) Same as today...
b) Warmer/Wetter...
c) Cooler/Snowy...
d) At Times... All of The Above.

These are the “Wild Cards” of Mother Nature when Temp’s
Flip-Flop Back and Forth Over Zero C. “Tipping Points” of
Half a degree are Impossible to anticipate with Complete
Certainty and can change the whole Outcome, especially
over Mountain Elevations that are typically Cooler than
Published Base Temp. Values.
Later on in a dedicated Apres Ski “Reply”, Posted Below,
(hopefully before midnight as our previous
commitments for this evening permit)...
we’ll add with respect to a Related Twitter Posted
Question We were Asked...


In the Mean-Time...

Everyone We Know that was Properly Dressed and had a Positive Attitude...

Was Having Fun!!!



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More Technical Info. later in Apres Ski “Reply”,
posted below sometime after midnight.





----------------------- 8:19 A.M. Orig. Post ------------------------

87(*) Open Trails on the 4 Sides of #Tremblant.

No Matter The Weather, You’ll Find Lots Of Places To Do This Today...



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Otherwise, it could be a damp day, but the hourly forecast has been changing... hourly...
so it’s practically impossible to predict how things are going to end up.

Flexibility in Exterior Shell configuration may be a key element in all-day
comfort, and for those that own a poncho, you may be wanting to have
that handy for the afternoon.

There is an Official Environment Canada Freezing Rain Warning
for the Region, In Effect Now.




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(Progressive “Logistics Day" Page Assembly. Thanks for your patience!)

There are two sets of Conditions for today.

1) Above Ground: This is the ambient air temperatures throughout the day in
combination with whatever precipitation and other wind and atmospheric factors
exist. If you’re not properly equipped with water resistant or water shedding
outer layers, you may experience some wetness, depending on the intensity
of any precipitation.

It should be noted that on the current Weather Network Hourly Forecast, the
rain icons are small and in our experience that indicates that the precip. will
be passing over the area in bands, and further, there can, maybe, odd’s are,
probably, most likely... there will be entire sectors, even sides... that are DRY,
opposite those areas that may be wet.

There is even a possibility it May Not Rain At All???

It Might Even Be SNOW Over the Mountain at these very close to Zero C temp’s!?!?


So then, from a utility POV, if you find your self in a wet zone... try a different
side, try all the different sides, and you will probably be able to keep comfortable
without too much inconvenience.

2) Ground Level Surface Conditions: This set of Conditions is, in our opinion,
far more predictable in the sense that once you explore and identify the various
surface characteristics of Mountain Sectors, they will probably remain much the
same in those respective Sectors all day.

Based on the overnight Grooming, the temp’s on the Mountain and the pre-existing
Base, we think there will be a very broad range of mixed soft and not-so-soft snow
surfaces that with Grooming will be very good to fine, but could have potentially
Icy Bit’s here and there, just as likely as there could be potentially Super Soft Bit’s
here and there as well.

At this stage, we would not predict where the best conditions might be(besides Nansen
and P’tit Bonheur, two of the best maintained and stable Trails on Planet Earth), because
there are too many “Wild Cards” in this mix and the only really effective way of telling is
to get out there and explore.

The bottom line on Surface Conditions is that you need to pay strict attention to
selecting Actual Skill Level Terrain until you verify safe passage, and if in doubt,
default to 1 level EASIER Terrain to stay within safe control limits.





Other Weather Notes:



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It should be Noted that South Resort Base Level has seen Snow Flurries
at 12:00 P.M.


At these indicated Wind Directions and Velocities IF... it rains... the Skiing/Boarding
may be easier on North due to Descent "Tail-Wind" benefit.





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Shades of a Grey Spring Day, but...

Sweet Spots of Very Fine Ski/Board Conditions within all Skill Level Rated Terrain.

Basic Technical Ski Skills with a flexible attitude and caution on initial exploration
should reward everyone one on the Mountain with Great Skiing, Great Exercise,
and More Fresh Air than City Folk get in a month!






Links and not-so-fine print:

http://www.tremblant.ca

What’s The Use? Research Benefits of this Archive: http://tinyurl.com/gp5vjps

(*) :?: Understanding Trail Counts - http://alturl.com/n54py

http://www.tremblant.ca/mountain/trailmap-e.htm

http://www.tremblant.ca/galleries/webcams/index-e.htm

http://translate.google.com/translate_t ... =fr&tl=en#

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/CAQC0360

Forum Index: http://alturl.com/r4cco

:) Bring Back The Memories... :arrow: Research Future Visits...
If you would like to look up dates you visited Tremblant, or you
want to research days/weeks/months to visit, you can sample what
they look like historically, month by month, year by year.

GoTo: Archive, Search Reports by Date: Index: http://tinyurl.com/yktelmu

When reviewing dates from any of the past, numbered, archived pages,
you can use the "Previous Topic" or "Next Topic" buttons, located
screen far right, in upper date/message bar to scroll through sequential
dates, or use your browsers "back" button to stay on the selected index
page for non-sequential date reviews in either forward or reverse order.


There are approximately 6, 25 day Index pages per season.

( :idea: If you "Bookmark" the link above, it will always take you to the
First index page with the latest posts. That gives you an immediate,
current to 25 day past, review scroll of Winter Alpine Conditions by
consecutive date.)




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Re: 3/14/16 #Tremblant Conditions

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T360 Apres Ski Technical Edition.

Today we had the following Twitter Exchange:

The Question(s) raised are too complex to answer with full reason in 140 Characters,
so we acknowledged the queries and undertook to provide a reply of adequate detail.(**)

This is it.

Please Note: Sequential Time Stamps on Q’s and Replies.


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Firstly, We would like to thank the person for the questions because if
there is anything we can do to help understandings we want to try
to do that, not to mention that we learn through questions ourselves, i.e.,
if we can or should explain things differently, or more completely,
the process helps us to improve too.

As Far As Twitter Goes...

These Questions and their answers are far too complex to be adequately understood
or answered in 140 Character responses.

What the Questioner needs to know is that the Open Trail Data is Not Absolute...
Especially when the weather is changing by the minute.

If the Weather Forecast is changing every hour, and the Weather itself, changing
every few minutes, if may be impossible to Guarantee Any Specific Open Trail
number, so all they can do is look at the available forecasting data up to the
moment the Publishing is done at and make their own best Open Projections
based on current Weather.


They also specifically state on the Official 3.14.16 Tremblant.ca Open Trail Data:

"WARNING: Due to the weather conditions, our operations on the south side might be
affected and some trails might be in progressive opening."


To Us... This above statement seems quite clear that there are Weather Related Issues
that could affect the Open Trail Numbers As Well As Lift Operations too, so, that’s why
we think the number of Closed Trails increased without notice... the Intensity of the
Weather was Unexpected, and it caused problems including delayed or completely
closed Trail Status.

In our own Conditions report for Monday morning we stated:

"Otherwise, it could be a damp day, but the hourly forecast has been changing... hourly...
so it’s practically impossible to predict how things are going to end up.”

Looking at the 3.14.16 Time Stamps on the Official Open Data, there is almost
3 hours between the time the data was published and the First Public Ride Up
and evidently, there was quite a different Weather picture by the time the Mountain
Opened, so different, that for more than one reason, Crews may have been fully justified
in strategically closing Trails, whole Sectors, or Lifts as necessary for safety, Snow
Resource Management or any other reason they found valid.

Attached to every Daily Post We Make is the Link to our Forum Article:

We Wrote This On November 30Th, 2010.



(*) :?: Understanding Trail Counts - http://alturl.com/n54py



We recommend all Skiers/Boarders Around The World who do not
already understand this article to become familiar with it’s basics.

Read the Whole Thing, but under the paragraphs labelled “Additionally:”,
you will find specific references to factors regarding “Progressive” and other
forms of Trail Opening Status.

We hope this provides insight into this very Complex situation and we would
also like to point out that just as frequently with Good/Favourable Weather,
the “Open” Trail count goes Up Unexpectedly and without notice.

Are Mistakes Possible? Sure , but...

The bottom line is that when Mother nature can change her mind within Minutes
and then within minutes either change back, or go in a completely new or different
way, it becomes almost impossible to keep up with such a variable Open Trail List
and Skiers And Boarders Need To Be Patient for the sake of an abundance of
Caution and Safety for which we 100%, Totally Support The Ski Patrol who make
these very timely judgements.











(**)Footnote:
Our Theories Are based On Years of Observation and Experience, but as an
Independent Tremblant Fan Site, we are not privy to any Official Policy Other
than that which is published in any publicly available format, so We Could
Be Wrong and we welcome corrections, verifications, updates, etc., in the
interests of assembling an Archive of useful information based on
Wiki-Like accuracy.


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