4/1/17 #Tremblant Conditions
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:49 am
T360 Prime Time Apres Ski Intro @ 9:35 P.M.
(Please Note: There’s more Apres Ski posted below this page as
a separate “Reply” attached.)
Despite Rain Icons In The Hourly Weather Forecast...
Not A Single Drop Of Rain Fell On Tremblant.
It Did Snow Quite A Bit Though... Last Night, and Today...
More later in a Late Apres Ski Addition... To be posted below in “Reply”,
hopefully, before midnight if possible...
Bottom line... For a Saturday, it was a light day for some reason, maybe people
were freaked out by the Forecast Rain Icons, but regardless, rain never happened
and Snow Fell. Anyone that hesitated attending today made a big mistake...
it was another great day of Technical Skiing with a buffet of every Spring
Snow Condition except rainy!
--------------- 6:49 A.M. Orig. Post ---------------
76(*) Open Trails On All 4 Open Sides Of #Tremblant.
Merci Tremblant.ca !!! OPEN LIFT HOURS TO 5:00 P.M.!!!
Please Note: There are Multiple “Progressive”, Gradual Trail Openings Expected.
For Best Results... Check With Mountain Info. Ski Crews For Up-To-The-Minute
Status on Your Favourite Tremblant Trails!
With Temp’s Floating Around Zero C...
... All Kinds Of Different Surface Patterns can evolve with the
unique combinations of Thermal and Traffic effects over Groomed
surfaces.
If things stay on the Cool Side... There may be more in the way of Icy Bits
If things end up on the warmer side... There may be more Soft or Mogul Zones.
Forward Observations are critical to anticipation on any descent.
Use your Head and be cautious on initial explorations.
--------- Conditions Caveat: -------------
Yesterday was a lot more “Winter” than forecast, so there are some
Icy Bits primarily on or around Contour Crests and over steeper pitches,
particularly in Trail Centres where Traffic Concentrations may have
exposed the substrates. Typically, they are Patterns that may be similar
and therefore recognizable.
With a Light Dusting Of New Snow, some of those areas may be
covered initially and not completely visible. Caution is Advised
when approaching Crests or Pitches until safe passage is confirmed.
---------- End of Caveat -----------
Trail Conditions Case Study...
Versant Sud, South Side, McCulloch.
McCulloch is a Primary Descent Path from the Summit
that runs between the Gondola and the TGV Quad
and ends at the base of the TGV Quad on Versant Sud,
the South Side.
Yesterday’s Wind and Temp conditions created an Icy patch
at the Summit Crest that required care in traversing. Experienced
McCulloch Skiers/Boarders knew in a heartbeat that there would
probably also be some ice on the entrance to the long pitch, so
slow speeds were what you needed to get onto the pitch safely
from where you could evaluate options.
We tried both sides as well as right down the centre,
so here is what we found.
The Key to safe navigation on McCulloch yesterday was entrance Speed.
You could see it all happening right in front of you. Those who came winging
over the pitch entrance had no choice. High Velocity exceeded any Grip potential
and Speeders were obviously having great difficulty in effective control as
they could not find grip and there was much loud scraping and skidding
as they attempted control. For those who approach cautiously, there was actually
some grip in the firm trail centre, but the loose top layer occasionally covered
up some of the Icy Bits, so even then, there were “Ooopp’s” moments.
The Right Side Descent closest to the TGV Quad, was narrower than usual
and very prone to bare spots where scraped off. The Left Side Descent, pictured
above, had the most workable surface in both width and loose top layers, so it was
the best way down at that time.
It was very clear to see many on McCulloch without the Expert Skills
its Black Diamond Difficulty Level requires. Experts with Skills and Tuned
Gear were obvious by their demonstrated control. We would be willing to bet
a few bucks that all the Apres Ski Bar Critics loudly complaining about
the “Icy” on the pitch are not Experts and were just way out of their actual
skill level. We had a sweet run down the Left Side where there was about 4
or 5 metres width of Soft, Loose Snow.
Below the Pitch, on the far more gradual mid and lower portions of McCulloch,
conditions were more uniform across the trail width so grip and turning effort
were much easier to work with at the speeds the slope generates.
Additionally, as you got lower, you could feel the warmer temps as they were
working to soften the surfaces, so there was more forgiveness and easier
basic control as you got down towards the TGV Quad base.
Summary: If You Are An Actual “Expert”, there was nothing on McCulloch
you could not handle. If you think you are an Expert and you came onto
McCulloch too fast, you would have had big trouble with vastly reduced,
or no control over the Steep Pitch. Consequently, if you found you had no
control on the McCulloch Pitch, we think you are not an Expert because
real Experts know enough to Start Safe On Every Descent and if they are not
sure, real Experts Stop and Check before proceeding. If you do not have
tuned gear, regardless of Skill Level, you would have found it Icy.
McCulloch gets a lot of Feedback “Heat” because there are so many
that either try it, or have their Friends drag them onto it, that are not
actual Experts. It is a "Pet Peeve” of ours that the loudest complainers
are frequently the least qualified.
Just For The Fun Of It... Expo!
All The Spring Expo Bump Fans Are Surfacing!
We know people who come to Ski this One Run
in the Spring bumps and they are not disappointed!
Clinically Speaking... With Temps +/- Zero C, you can literally find
every kind of surface from Soft to Icy, from Smooth to Lumpy...
all in one run!
Weather Notes:
With the temperature differential of -4C cooler at Mountain Elevations,
there are many Wild-Cards in todays potential over the whole Mountain
vertical drop. It’s an "a la Carte” day!!!, Be Ready For Anything!
ATTENTION Beginners And Intermediates:
There Are TON’S of Great Terrain in the
Green and Blue Groomed Trails!
These Are Only Two Samples:
Nansen(Sud/South) and Sissy Schuss(Nord/North).
Smart Learners Know Speed Control Is Everything
and That Is Easy when things are so Smooth to begin with.
Even if surfaces are Firm or a wee bit Icy, “Smooth” makes
it all so much easier to do anything! There are days when we
spend much of the day on Terrain like this just because it’s “Easy”
performance and way more fun to not have to worry about
surprises!!!
Special Edition Apres Ski Posted Below as “Reply”.
Links and not-so-fine print:
http://www.tremblant.ca
What’s The Use? Research Benefits of this Archive: http://tinyurl.com/gp5vjps
(*)
Understanding Trail Counts - http://alturl.com/n54py
http://www.tremblant.ca/mountain/trailmap-e.htm
http://www.tremblant.ca/galleries/webcams/index-e.htm
http://translate.google.com/translate_t ... =fr&tl=en#
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/CAQC0360
Forum Index: http://alturl.com/r4cco
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(Please Note: There’s more Apres Ski posted below this page as
a separate “Reply” attached.)
Despite Rain Icons In The Hourly Weather Forecast...
Not A Single Drop Of Rain Fell On Tremblant.
It Did Snow Quite A Bit Though... Last Night, and Today...
More later in a Late Apres Ski Addition... To be posted below in “Reply”,
hopefully, before midnight if possible...
Bottom line... For a Saturday, it was a light day for some reason, maybe people
were freaked out by the Forecast Rain Icons, but regardless, rain never happened
and Snow Fell. Anyone that hesitated attending today made a big mistake...
it was another great day of Technical Skiing with a buffet of every Spring
Snow Condition except rainy!
--------------- 6:49 A.M. Orig. Post ---------------
76(*) Open Trails On All 4 Open Sides Of #Tremblant.
Merci Tremblant.ca !!! OPEN LIFT HOURS TO 5:00 P.M.!!!
Please Note: There are Multiple “Progressive”, Gradual Trail Openings Expected.
For Best Results... Check With Mountain Info. Ski Crews For Up-To-The-Minute
Status on Your Favourite Tremblant Trails!
With Temp’s Floating Around Zero C...
... All Kinds Of Different Surface Patterns can evolve with the
unique combinations of Thermal and Traffic effects over Groomed
surfaces.
If things stay on the Cool Side... There may be more in the way of Icy Bits
If things end up on the warmer side... There may be more Soft or Mogul Zones.
Forward Observations are critical to anticipation on any descent.
Use your Head and be cautious on initial explorations.
--------- Conditions Caveat: -------------
Yesterday was a lot more “Winter” than forecast, so there are some
Icy Bits primarily on or around Contour Crests and over steeper pitches,
particularly in Trail Centres where Traffic Concentrations may have
exposed the substrates. Typically, they are Patterns that may be similar
and therefore recognizable.
With a Light Dusting Of New Snow, some of those areas may be
covered initially and not completely visible. Caution is Advised
when approaching Crests or Pitches until safe passage is confirmed.
---------- End of Caveat -----------
Trail Conditions Case Study...
Versant Sud, South Side, McCulloch.
McCulloch is a Primary Descent Path from the Summit
that runs between the Gondola and the TGV Quad
and ends at the base of the TGV Quad on Versant Sud,
the South Side.
Yesterday’s Wind and Temp conditions created an Icy patch
at the Summit Crest that required care in traversing. Experienced
McCulloch Skiers/Boarders knew in a heartbeat that there would
probably also be some ice on the entrance to the long pitch, so
slow speeds were what you needed to get onto the pitch safely
from where you could evaluate options.
We tried both sides as well as right down the centre,
so here is what we found.
The Key to safe navigation on McCulloch yesterday was entrance Speed.
You could see it all happening right in front of you. Those who came winging
over the pitch entrance had no choice. High Velocity exceeded any Grip potential
and Speeders were obviously having great difficulty in effective control as
they could not find grip and there was much loud scraping and skidding
as they attempted control. For those who approach cautiously, there was actually
some grip in the firm trail centre, but the loose top layer occasionally covered
up some of the Icy Bits, so even then, there were “Ooopp’s” moments.
The Right Side Descent closest to the TGV Quad, was narrower than usual
and very prone to bare spots where scraped off. The Left Side Descent, pictured
above, had the most workable surface in both width and loose top layers, so it was
the best way down at that time.
It was very clear to see many on McCulloch without the Expert Skills
its Black Diamond Difficulty Level requires. Experts with Skills and Tuned
Gear were obvious by their demonstrated control. We would be willing to bet
a few bucks that all the Apres Ski Bar Critics loudly complaining about
the “Icy” on the pitch are not Experts and were just way out of their actual
skill level. We had a sweet run down the Left Side where there was about 4
or 5 metres width of Soft, Loose Snow.
Below the Pitch, on the far more gradual mid and lower portions of McCulloch,
conditions were more uniform across the trail width so grip and turning effort
were much easier to work with at the speeds the slope generates.
Additionally, as you got lower, you could feel the warmer temps as they were
working to soften the surfaces, so there was more forgiveness and easier
basic control as you got down towards the TGV Quad base.
Summary: If You Are An Actual “Expert”, there was nothing on McCulloch
you could not handle. If you think you are an Expert and you came onto
McCulloch too fast, you would have had big trouble with vastly reduced,
or no control over the Steep Pitch. Consequently, if you found you had no
control on the McCulloch Pitch, we think you are not an Expert because
real Experts know enough to Start Safe On Every Descent and if they are not
sure, real Experts Stop and Check before proceeding. If you do not have
tuned gear, regardless of Skill Level, you would have found it Icy.
McCulloch gets a lot of Feedback “Heat” because there are so many
that either try it, or have their Friends drag them onto it, that are not
actual Experts. It is a "Pet Peeve” of ours that the loudest complainers
are frequently the least qualified.
Just For The Fun Of It... Expo!
All The Spring Expo Bump Fans Are Surfacing!
We know people who come to Ski this One Run
in the Spring bumps and they are not disappointed!
Clinically Speaking... With Temps +/- Zero C, you can literally find
every kind of surface from Soft to Icy, from Smooth to Lumpy...
all in one run!
Weather Notes:
With the temperature differential of -4C cooler at Mountain Elevations,
there are many Wild-Cards in todays potential over the whole Mountain
vertical drop. It’s an "a la Carte” day!!!, Be Ready For Anything!
ATTENTION Beginners And Intermediates:
There Are TON’S of Great Terrain in the
Green and Blue Groomed Trails!
These Are Only Two Samples:
Nansen(Sud/South) and Sissy Schuss(Nord/North).
Smart Learners Know Speed Control Is Everything
and That Is Easy when things are so Smooth to begin with.
Even if surfaces are Firm or a wee bit Icy, “Smooth” makes
it all so much easier to do anything! There are days when we
spend much of the day on Terrain like this just because it’s “Easy”
performance and way more fun to not have to worry about
surprises!!!
Special Edition Apres Ski Posted Below as “Reply”.
Links and not-so-fine print:
http://www.tremblant.ca
What’s The Use? Research Benefits of this Archive: http://tinyurl.com/gp5vjps
(*)

http://www.tremblant.ca/mountain/trailmap-e.htm
http://www.tremblant.ca/galleries/webcams/index-e.htm
http://translate.google.com/translate_t ... =fr&tl=en#
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/CAQC0360
Forum Index: http://alturl.com/r4cco


If you would like to look up dates you visited Tremblant, or you
want to research days/weeks/months to visit, you can sample what
they look like historically, month by month, year by year.
GoTo: Archive, Search Reports by Date: Index: http://tinyurl.com/yktelmu
When reviewing dates from any of the past, numbered, archived pages,
you can use the "Previous Topic" or "Next Topic" buttons, located
screen far right, in upper date/message bar to scroll through sequential
dates, or use your browsers "back" button to stay on the selected index
page for non-sequential date reviews in either forward or reverse order.
There are approximately 6, 25 day Index pages per season.
(

First index page with the latest posts. That gives you an immediate,
current to 25 day past, review scroll of Winter Alpine Conditions by
consecutive date.)
.